{"id":1602652,"date":"2025-11-26T12:27:44","date_gmt":"2025-11-26T17:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/observer.com\/?p=1602652"},"modified":"2025-11-26T12:27:44","modified_gmt":"2025-11-26T17:27:44","slug":"interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/","title":{"rendered":"Hans van Manen Remembers Photographer Erwin Olaf"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_1602670\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602670\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/2_portrait-of-hans-van-manen_dance-in-close-up_hans-van-manen-thinking-about-my-friend-robert-bw_2022\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602670\" data-lasso-id=\"2874273\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full-width wp-image-1602670\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_portrait-of-Hans-van-Manen_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-Thinking-about-my-friend-Robert-BW_2022-e1764177438578.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A black-and-white studio portrait shows an older man in glasses, a leather jacket and a tie looking straight at the camera with a lit cigarette between his lips, representing Hans van Manen.\" width=\"970\" height=\"771\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602670\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dance in Close-Up, <em>Hans van Manen &#8211; Thinking about my friend Robert<\/em>, 2022. <span class=\"media-credit\">\u00a9 Estate Erwin Olaf, courtesy Gallery Ron Mandos Amsterdam<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Stedelijk Museum in Amsterdam is currently hosting \u201cFreedom,\u201d the largest-ever retrospective of Dutch photographer Erwin Olaf (1959-2023). Spanning four decades, the exhibition reveals an artist whose meticulously staged images transformed photography into theater, charged with beauty, tension and control. From early portraits of nightlife and queerness to his later reflections on power and vulnerability, Olaf\u2019s lens captured both the poise and fragility of human presence.<\/p>\n<p>For Olaf, dance was inseparable from photography. The turning point came in 1984 when he met Hans van Manen, already an internationally acclaimed choreographer and photographer, who immediately recognized the younger artist\u2019s instinct for composition. Their meeting marked the beginning of a lasting friendship and artistic dialogue. Dance offered Olaf a language of discipline and precision: each movement, like each frame, had to be deliberate. His extreme close-ups of dancers turned flesh into sculpture, revealing the strain, elegance and sheer labor of performance.<\/p>\n<p>To coincide with the exhibition, Observer met Hans van Manen to revisit those early encounters and the creative partnership that shaped their practices. In our conversation, he reflects on their exchange, the lessons of light and the choreography behind every photograph.<\/p>\n<p><b>Let\u2019s go back to the start: when did you first meet Erwin Olaf and what struck you about him?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>More than 40 years ago. Erwin was working as a journalist for <i>Sek<\/i>, a queer magazine then. He came to photograph me for an interview, and we started talking right away. The following month, I photographed him. We had no money at the time, but I still remember when he got his first Hasselblad camera. That\u2019s a big moment for any photographer. From then on, we had a fantastic relationship. We talked about photography constantly.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1602671\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602671\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602671\" data-lasso-id=\"2874274\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602671\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A man wearing a white conical hat stands with his forehead pressed against a blank wall while a video camera on a tripod records him from across an empty room, creating a scene of deliberate absurdity characteristic of Erwin Olaf\u2019s April Fool images.\" width=\"970\" height=\"729\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=768,577 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=635,477 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=1536,1154 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=2048,1539 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=970,729 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=320,240 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=1920,1443 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=50,38 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602671\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A man wearing a white conical hat stands with his forehead pressed against a blank wall while a video camera on a tripod records him from across an empty room, creating a scene of deliberate absurdity characteristic of Erwin Olaf\u2019s April Fool images.\" width=\"970\" height=\"729\" srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=768,577 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=635,477 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=1536,1154 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=2048,1539 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=970,729 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=320,240 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=1920,1443 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/3_erwin-olaf-april-fool-2020-1115am-2020.jpg?resize=50,38 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602671\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Erwin Olaf, <em>April Fool 2020, 11.15am<\/em>, 2020. <span class=\"media-credit\">\u00a9 Estate Erwin Olaf, courtesy Gallery Ron Mandos Amsterdam<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>He was 24 then. How do you remember him at that age?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Very curious about art and photography. When he came into my house, he was surprised by what was on the walls. I had an important collection of Robert Mapplethorpe photographs, <a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.artforum.com\/news\/rijksmuseum-receives-donation-of-early-mapplethorpe-works-245735\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874275\">which I later gave to the Rijksmuseum<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>People often call you a mentor in his search for a voice.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>We always exchanged ideas, and I had a lot to say about what he photographed. Not criticism, more like real conversation. Erwin may have liked calling me a mentor, but I wouldn\u2019t describe myself that way. We had a deep friendship from the beginning until his death.<\/p>\n<p><b>But you introduced him to fine art photography\u2026<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I talked to him about the power of technique and the magic of light. Sometimes one light is enough to create miracles. I developed 150 ballets and often did the lighting design, so I know light. For me, it wasn\u2019t difficult to get it right when I photographed. Erwin used light differently because he worked on a large scale, which demanded another approach. If you compare his early and late pictures, you see how his lighting evolved. Technique is essential, but once you master it, you have to add your personality. You have to put yourself in.<\/p>\n<p><b>How did Olaf influence you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Not so much in my work. I knew what I wanted, and he knew what he wanted. He preferred listening to speaking. He might show me ten pictures, I\u2019d give feedback, but he wasn\u2019t very critical of me. Also, he showed me more than I showed him.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1602672\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602672\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602672\" data-lasso-id=\"2874276\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602672\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"An atmospheric photograph shows a man steering a long wooden boat carrying two veiled figures across a mist-covered mountain lake, part of Erwin Olaf\u2019s Im Wald series.\" width=\"970\" height=\"647\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=635,423 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=2048,1365 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=970,647 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=320,213 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=1920,1280 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602672\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"An atmospheric photograph shows a man steering a long wooden boat carrying two veiled figures across a mist-covered mountain lake, part of Erwin Olaf\u2019s Im Wald series.\" width=\"970\" height=\"647\" srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=635,423 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=2048,1365 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=970,647 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=320,213 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=1920,1280 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5_erwin-olaf-im-wald-auf-dem-see-2020.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602672\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Erwin Olaf, <em>Im Wald, Auf dem See<\/em>, 2020. <span class=\"media-credit\">\u00a9 Estate Erwin Olaf, courtesy Gallery Ron Mandos Amsterdam<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>Let\u2019s speak about the exhibition at the Stedelijk.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sure it will be a great success. Many people who have never seen Erwin\u2019s pictures will discover his work. I try to understand how hard it is to organize a retrospective. How do you present a whole life and divide it into rooms? It\u2019s difficult to create a balanced rhythm with photography. Some parts feel full, others minimal. Some good pictures are missing, too. I\u2019m strict because I\u2019ve seen them all.<\/p>\n<p><b>How about its title, \u201cFreedom?\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Erwin was a freethinker, absolutely emancipated, and that drove him. From the nightclubs to the fight for equal rights and activism. But there\u2019s always a fine line between someone\u2019s life, his work and what ends up in an exhibition.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1602673\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602673\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602673\" data-lasso-id=\"2874277\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602673\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A black-and-white photograph shows a nude pregnant woman in thigh-high boots standing beside a shorter nude figure in a Roman-style helmet, both arranged in a stylized, theatrical pose typical of Erwin Olaf\u2019s early staged works.\" width=\"970\" height=\"970\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=300,300 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=768,768 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=600,600 600w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=1536,1536 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=2048,2048 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=970,970 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=320,320 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=1920,1920 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=800,800 800w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=700,700 700w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=50,50 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602673\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A black-and-white photograph shows a nude pregnant woman in thigh-high boots standing beside a shorter nude figure in a Roman-style helmet, both arranged in a stylized, theatrical pose typical of Erwin Olaf\u2019s early staged works.\" width=\"970\" height=\"970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=300,300 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=768,768 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=600,600 600w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=1536,1536 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=2048,2048 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=970,970 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=320,320 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=1920,1920 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=800,800 800w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=700,700 700w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_erwin-olaf-chessmen-v-1988.jpg?resize=50,50 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602673\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Erwin Olaf, <em>Chessmen, V<\/em>, 1988. <span class=\"media-credit\">\u00a9 Estate Erwin Olaf, courtesy Gallery Ron Mandos Amsterdam<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>Some pictures sparked debate at the time for being controversial. How did he handle criticism?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>We photographed many nude men, and we found it normal. Early on, there were bad comments because people interpreted the images in stupid ways, but that changed over the last 20 years. Erwin also photographed many nude women, in such a beautiful way that no other photographer in the Netherlands did. Of course, people mostly talk about the men.<\/p>\n<p><b>In the exhibition, there\u2019s a section on dance, including <\/b><b><i>Dance in Close-Up<\/i><\/b><b>, made for your 90th birthday. What stays with you from making it?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I spent three weeks showing Erwin documentation of all my ballets, and he chose what to use. Then we spent a full week in the studio with the dancers. I directed them, and Erwin made the pictures. It was a great coordination, and the images became a fantastic book. In the show, there are only slow-motion videos from my works <i>Trois Gnossiennes<\/i> and <i>Two Pieces for HET<\/i>. They\u2019re beautiful, but they weren\u2019t easy to film. You have to be precise with the dancers\u2019 positions. One video has a lift, the other a pirouette. You must give exact directions on when and where to start and stop. The dancers need specific energy for a spotless result. These are very technical works. Erwin was always good with video.<\/p>\n<p><b>This was your last project together\u2026<\/b><\/p>\n<p>He loved my ballets, and this was probably the most abstract project he ever did. He usually had a thing for storytelling, but not here. On the last day, I told him, let\u2019s take a picture where we bow. So we stood there, hand in hand like we were on stage, as if everything had finished after seven days of hard work. It\u2019s not easy to be present up there for so long.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1602669\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602669\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/1_dance-in-close-up_hans-van-manen-and-erwin-olaf-bow_2022\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602669\" data-lasso-id=\"2874278\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602669\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A color studio photograph shows Hans van Manen and Erwin Olaf standing side by side, holding hands and bowing deeply toward the floor as if performing a final curtain call together.\" width=\"970\" height=\"970\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=300,300 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=768,768 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=600,600 600w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=1536,1536 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=2048,2048 2048w, 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size-full-width wp-image-1602669\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"A color studio photograph shows Hans van Manen and Erwin Olaf standing side by side, holding hands and bowing deeply toward the floor as if performing a final curtain call together.\" width=\"970\" height=\"970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg 4500w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=300,300 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=768,768 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=600,600 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https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=700,700 700w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/1_Dance-in-Close-Up_Hans-van-Manen-and-Erwin-Olaf-bow_2022.jpg?resize=50,50 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602669\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dance in Close-Up, <em>Hans van Manen and Erwin Olaf bow<\/em>, 2022. <span class=\"media-credit\">\u00a9 Estate Erwin Olaf, courtesy Gallery Ron Mandos Amsterdam<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><b>His images are theatrical by design. Did he enjoy directing people on set?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Of course. If you look closely, you can find him in all the details. He knew how to compose beautiful pictures. I think of his <i>Im Wald<\/i> series in the Bavarian woods. I\u2019ve never seen woods like that. Nature is vast, and there\u2019s only one small human. Because of that scale, you feel how majestic the place is. It\u2019s very poetic. He had many such pictures. That personal work ran alongside the commissions and shows the difference between a \u2018photographer\u2019 and an \u2018artist\u2019.<\/p>\n<p><b>Olaf once said, \u201cI have become my photographs. What I create is me.\u201d What do you wish people understood about him beyond the images?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>That he was open-minded and proactive. He always said what he wanted. I remember he once spat in someone\u2019s face because the man said something terrible. I told Erwin he was wrong and the only thing to do was apologize. A month later, he did. He was reasonable in the end. He spoke with the man, and they settled it. He went far in everything he did in public. An exhibition gives only a tiny sense of who he was. A fantastic person. I loved him very much.<\/p>\n<p><b>Since his passing, has your memory of him changed the way you watch dance or look at photographs?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The last time I saw him, he had so many ideas\u2014some serious and some scandalous\u2014and he shared them from his hospital bed. It was deeply moving. He was the only person I could truly talk to about photography. It\u2019s strange that he isn\u2019t here, strange to talk about pictures that aren\u2019t there. In choreography, I always set the start and the finish so the piece holds. I try to give my memories of him the same structure, or they fall apart.<\/p>\n<p><b>Erwin Olaf\u2019s \u201c<\/b><a target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stedelijk.nl\/en\/exhibitions\/erwin-olaf-en\" data-lasso-id=\"2874279\"><b>Freedom<\/b><\/a><b>\u201d is on view at the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam through March 1, 2026.<\/b><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1602668\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1602668\" style=\"width: 970px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-hans-van-manen-remembers-photographer-erwin-olaf\/2_stedelijk-adam_erwin-olaf_pt_okt-2025-1g7a2882\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-1602668\" data-lasso-id=\"2874280\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602668\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" data-src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"An exhibition gallery shows two large projected images of male dancers on dark walls, with a brightly lit room of close-up portrait photographs visible through a doorway, illustrating part of the Stedelijk Museum\u2019s Erwin Olaf retrospective.\" width=\"970\" height=\"649\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg 6000w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=300,201 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=768,514 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=635,425 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=1536,1028 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=2048,1370 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=970,649 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=320,214 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=1920,1284 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload size-full-width wp-image-1602668\" src=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?quality=80&amp;w=970\" alt=\"An exhibition gallery shows two large projected images of male dancers on dark walls, with a brightly lit room of close-up portrait photographs visible through a doorway, illustrating part of the Stedelijk Museum\u2019s Erwin Olaf retrospective.\" width=\"970\" height=\"649\" srcset=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg 6000w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=300,201 300w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=768,514 768w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=635,425 635w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=1536,1028 1536w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=2048,1370 2048w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=970,649 970w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=320,214 320w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=1920,1284 1920w, https:\/\/observer.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/2_Stedelijk-Adam_Erwin-Olaf_PT_Okt-2025-1G7A2882.jpg?resize=50,33 50w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 135px, 200px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1602668\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An installation view of &#8220;Erwin Olaf &#8211; Freedom&#8221; at the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam. <span class=\"media-credit\">Photo: Peter Tijhuis<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3><b>More Arts interviews<\/b><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/interview-anthony-kiendl-mca-denver-museum-director\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874281\">Anthony Kiendl On Unlocking MCA Denver\u2019s Potential and Upending Art World Hierarchies<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/10\/interview-artist-eamon-ore-giron-lacma-talking-shit\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874282\">How Artist Eamon Ore-Giron Is Keeping Ancient Deities Alive<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/artist-interview-adrian-villar-rojas-art-sonje-aichi-triennale-2025\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874283\">Adri\u00e1n Villar Rojas On Time, Decay and the Fragile Afterlife of Art<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/10\/art-dealer-interview-hal-bromm-gallery-tribeca\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874284\">Five Decades On, Hal Bromm Reflects On His Gallery\u2019s History and His Own Legacy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/observer.com\/2025\/11\/artist-interview-maureen-catbagan-jevijoe-vitug-queens-museum-abang-guard-makibaka\/\" data-lasso-id=\"2874285\">Abang-Guard Talk Labor, Legacy and \u201cMakibaka\u201d at the Queens Museum<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;The last time I saw him, he had so many ideas\u2014some serious and some scandalous\u2014and he shared them from his hospital bed. 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